Deep Waters

Once Saved Always Saved?

October 18, 2023 Kenneth Shelton Season 13 Episode 37
Once Saved Always Saved?
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Deep Waters
Once Saved Always Saved?
Oct 18, 2023 Season 13 Episode 37
Kenneth Shelton

I feel unqualified to delve into such things as this from the position that I will be trying to take. And I say so because really there are others who have done a better job at explaining these kind of things. So why do it Ken? Because it occurred to me when I was read a book this past Sunday that something strange bumped into my current thinking. Allow me to share. So I have done more than one message and a book soon to be released down the road, on whether if you could lose your salvation standing or not. And I did it from some of the same scriptures that I will be using in this message, but from a new angle. We will take a look at the inerrancy of God predestining His peeps to salvation which if this is the case there is no guesswork as to who name is in the book of Life and who’s is not. It is finished before it started, so to speak. The other angle is that your name could be in the book of Life but because you went south in your walk with God your name vanished from the book. I will provide the scripture and the event which alludes to the fact that this could be the case. And but now we can’t have one thing cancel out another, you see the bible doesn’t contradict itself. And so when I go to that part of the story in a minute, I will express my concern for the proof of name in the book and then removed from the book so as to leave some doubt as to whether it really is a name in and then name out scenario. 

Luke 10:17-20 - 17 Then the [a]seventy returned with joy, saying, “Lord, even the demons are subject to us in Your name.”

18 And He said to them, “I saw Satan fall like lightning from heaven. 19 Behold, I give you the authority to trample on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy, and nothing shall by any means hurt you. 20 Nevertheless do not rejoice in this, that the spirits are subject to you, but [b]rather rejoice because your names are written in heaven.”

Ok so now we know that Judas was with these guys as he was a part of the original 12-disciples. And we can ponder the fact that this must have looked strange to satan after the fact, when he entered into Judas later in the story considering that Judas was casting out demons from others (Luke 22:3). But so in this scripture we see that Jesus corrected their over-zealous joy in the power that they yielded over the demons by saying, “rejoice because your names are written in heaven.” Luke 22:47-48 shows us that clearly Judas no longer considered it a valuable commodity that his name is written in heaven. Invisible ink? I don’t know but let’s continue to see if there is any relevance in adding this little ditty to the message. 

Show Notes

I feel unqualified to delve into such things as this from the position that I will be trying to take. And I say so because really there are others who have done a better job at explaining these kind of things. So why do it Ken? Because it occurred to me when I was read a book this past Sunday that something strange bumped into my current thinking. Allow me to share. So I have done more than one message and a book soon to be released down the road, on whether if you could lose your salvation standing or not. And I did it from some of the same scriptures that I will be using in this message, but from a new angle. We will take a look at the inerrancy of God predestining His peeps to salvation which if this is the case there is no guesswork as to who name is in the book of Life and who’s is not. It is finished before it started, so to speak. The other angle is that your name could be in the book of Life but because you went south in your walk with God your name vanished from the book. I will provide the scripture and the event which alludes to the fact that this could be the case. And but now we can’t have one thing cancel out another, you see the bible doesn’t contradict itself. And so when I go to that part of the story in a minute, I will express my concern for the proof of name in the book and then removed from the book so as to leave some doubt as to whether it really is a name in and then name out scenario. 

Luke 10:17-20 - 17 Then the [a]seventy returned with joy, saying, “Lord, even the demons are subject to us in Your name.”

18 And He said to them, “I saw Satan fall like lightning from heaven. 19 Behold, I give you the authority to trample on serpents and scorpions, and over all the power of the enemy, and nothing shall by any means hurt you. 20 Nevertheless do not rejoice in this, that the spirits are subject to you, but [b]rather rejoice because your names are written in heaven.”

Ok so now we know that Judas was with these guys as he was a part of the original 12-disciples. And we can ponder the fact that this must have looked strange to satan after the fact, when he entered into Judas later in the story considering that Judas was casting out demons from others (Luke 22:3). But so in this scripture we see that Jesus corrected their over-zealous joy in the power that they yielded over the demons by saying, “rejoice because your names are written in heaven.” Luke 22:47-48 shows us that clearly Judas no longer considered it a valuable commodity that his name is written in heaven. Invisible ink? I don’t know but let’s continue to see if there is any relevance in adding this little ditty to the message.